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Ladyah Liandri
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.06.08 06:47:00 -
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 Originally by: RFwills
He lost 2 bil and has now quit eve.
Quitting EVE over loss is naturally sad. However - a 2 year old player hauling 2 billion worth of goods in Jita space that seems to be full of gankers lately ... errr ... come on.
Originally by: RFwills
The whole point of Hi sec is safety.
Says who? It has been said a thousand times: hi-sec is safer not safe.
Originally by: RFwills
You should be able to make a couple jumps without having to worry about dieing/loosing your stuff.
'Cause you liked that obviously doesn't mean necessarily you should.
Originally by: RFwills
I know through these forums more and more people are getting tired of this exploit, which is what I will call it because by the majority of eve players, thats what it is.
First it's not an exploit. And second a couple of forum whiners don't represent the majority of EVE.
Originally by: RFwills
Main reason is... It cannot be avoided! When a pooly armored indy is attacked by a suicide ganker gang with t2 heavy drones. There is nothing that can be done.
Nothing is too much a word. But I agree protecting a dumb T1 hauler can be tricky. On the other hand - if you want to haul stuff worth billions maybe someone shouldn't use a T1 hauler? Or do you run level 4 missions in a frig since it's cheaper?
Originally by: RFwills
Next thing: Concord is meant to protect the innocent right?
What? The innocent .... good one  . Ok some clarification: Concord is not Police. Concord is a faction independet organization that serves only one purpose: punishing illegal acts of aggression in hi-sec. Their ships are already equipped with a T2 I win button. What more do you want?
Originally by: RFwills
The main thing wrong with that scenario is that the criminals end up better off then the friggin victim. This would encourage crime in real life as it does in Eve. The gankers in eve are reimbursed for ships, and get to get all the loot afterwards.
That is correct. And I admit that there are flaws.
Even if a ganker doesn't get anything insurance will cover his loss. And given the current ship build costs he'd actually make profit out of it.
The sec hit for ganking is kind of negligible if you ain't doing it full-time. So you are right - for some people a career in the ganking field might seem attractive.
But that is just one further reason to be more careful and alert even and especially in hi-sec.
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Ladyah Liandri
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.06.08 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: RFwills
Edited by: RFwills on 08/06/2007 06:26:47
You can disagree all you want, I encourage healthy debate, but when this *** happens to you and youre out a couple bil, you just might be finding yourself singing a different tune. When this evolves and becomes as common as the backround stars. Something will have to be done, its only a matter of time. This is a chance for the developers to get ahead of a major problem.
Heres something, If almost every single hi sec system had gates with awaiting suicide gangs, would you play eve? Theres only one real answer to that question.
If I lost billions in a gank due to own stupidity I'd bite my ass instead of whining on forums TBH.
According to your question:
Yes I'd definitely play EVE if almost every hi-sec gate had suicide gangs 'cause I'd be in such a gang.
And last but not least: you want a healthy debate? Would be easier if you stopped acting like a drama queen.
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Ladyah Liandri
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.06.08 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: RFwills
I like your style, nevertheless I am not acting like a drama queen. If I come off that way I apologize. And yeah you could "be" in such a gang. But how are you going to buy minerals? Get those t2 goodies from Jita? Or go to that infamous hi quality agent youve been wokrin for with a cargo full of t2 missiles?
Certainly you will find something unfavorable. If you dont then you must have optimism at lvl 5. Cus I see something wrong here.
ZOMG! There are sooo much griefers in EVE! qualifies for the drama queen oscars. But that's just me.
To your questions: short answer - I wouldn't need anything you mentioned.
Your hypothesis is kind of pointless anyway. If almost all gates were camped then there would be almost no players left to actually play the game.
And no I don't have Optimism on 5. I have Advanced Realism on 4. Works better for me.
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Ladyah Liandri
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.06.08 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: RFwills
those who live by the sword, die by the sword.
And you still refuse being a drama queen?
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Ladyah Liandri
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.06.08 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Hajyt
Just make a mod that blocks cargo scanning.
Brilliant idea really.
Ganker #1: "Hhmmm. Can't scan his cargo ..."
Ganker #2: "Maybe he put a scanning prohibitor on?"
Ganker #1: "Yeah. But why would he do that?"
Ganker #2: "Maybe he has something to hide ..."
Ganker #1: "Well ...."
Both (yelling). "Let's find out!"
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